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		<title>Comment on The Atheist Delusion: Why Science Is Not Always Rational! by imitroff</title>
		<link>http://mitroff.net/2007/02/04/the-atheist-delusion-why-science-is-not-always-rational/#comment-53</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 04:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Julie, yes, structures are necessary for understanding, but ideally they are healthy and functional, not dysfunctional.
Ian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Julie, yes, structures are necessary for understanding, but ideally they are healthy and functional, not dysfunctional.<br />
Ian</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Atheist Delusion: Why Science Is Not Always Rational! by JM</title>
		<link>http://mitroff.net/2007/02/04/the-atheist-delusion-why-science-is-not-always-rational/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Ian.

Couldn&#039;t you also say, however, that the structures (just like words, theories, institutions in general) are necessary constructs for understanding?  Part of the &quot;assumptions&quot; that we take in order to discern meaning?  For example, in one sense we can really know nothing without words (like Helen Keller before she learned the word water), but words themselves can be a constrictive mechanism if we fail to distinguish distinctions in their nuance.  So, is organized religion restrictive?  Yes, in one sense.  In another sense, it is also a means of conveying a complex reality that would be very difficult to get at without it.

Thanks again,
JM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ian.</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t you also say, however, that the structures (just like words, theories, institutions in general) are necessary constructs for understanding?  Part of the &#8220;assumptions&#8221; that we take in order to discern meaning?  For example, in one sense we can really know nothing without words (like Helen Keller before she learned the word water), but words themselves can be a constrictive mechanism if we fail to distinguish distinctions in their nuance.  So, is organized religion restrictive?  Yes, in one sense.  In another sense, it is also a means of conveying a complex reality that would be very difficult to get at without it.</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
JM</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Liberals Are Sarcastic and Conservatives Are Mean and Violent by imitroff</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t ignore the Machiavellian tactics at all. I just wasn&#039;t focusing on that in this particular blog post.
Ian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t ignore the Machiavellian tactics at all. I just wasn&#8217;t focusing on that in this particular blog post.<br />
Ian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Treating Mass Psychosis by imitroff</title>
		<link>http://mitroff.net/2011/01/14/treating-mass-psychosis/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[imitroff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 03:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Julie,

This is my next book -- in progress! Stay tuned for more info here on my blog.

Thanks,
Ian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie,</p>
<p>This is my next book &#8212; in progress! Stay tuned for more info here on my blog.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Ian</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Atheist Delusion: Why Science Is Not Always Rational! by imitroff</title>
		<link>http://mitroff.net/2007/02/04/the-atheist-delusion-why-science-is-not-always-rational/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[imitroff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 02:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Julie,
I agree with organized religions generally &quot;mistake the structure (externals) for the truth (internal reality.&quot; That is my whole point about &quot;organized religion.&quot;
Sincerely,
Ian Mitroff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Julie,<br />
I agree with organized religions generally &#8220;mistake the structure (externals) for the truth (internal reality.&#8221; That is my whole point about &#8220;organized religion.&#8221;<br />
Sincerely,<br />
Ian Mitroff</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Atheist Delusion: Why Science Is Not Always Rational! by JM</title>
		<link>http://mitroff.net/2007/02/04/the-atheist-delusion-why-science-is-not-always-rational/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have said in other places that religion can only be understood from within the religion, and that any formulation of a problem must take the approach of multiple models.  As such, I have difficulty with your critique of &quot;organized religion.&quot;

I am Catholic, arguably the most organized of organized religions.  (Although, I would contend it&#039;s not organized at all--we could never have pulled off the DiVincci Code  :-)  When people critique &quot;organized religion,&quot; they are often only looking at the structure of the religion.  One book that looks at the Catholic religion in a multi-faceted perspective is &quot;Models of the Church&quot; by Cardinal Avery Dulles.  (Nephew of John Foster Dulles.)  Structure alone is always a double-edged sword, but it is often a necessary construct, like a ladder or a bridge, to move people to the space in between structure.

Where I think the problems come to play in my religion and other religions is where they mistake the structure (externals) for the truth (internal reality).  In this respect, it is no different from science which, as you so aptly point out,  does not distinguish theory from the reality which it is trying to describe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have said in other places that religion can only be understood from within the religion, and that any formulation of a problem must take the approach of multiple models.  As such, I have difficulty with your critique of &#8220;organized religion.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am Catholic, arguably the most organized of organized religions.  (Although, I would contend it&#8217;s not organized at all&#8211;we could never have pulled off the DiVincci Code  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   When people critique &#8220;organized religion,&#8221; they are often only looking at the structure of the religion.  One book that looks at the Catholic religion in a multi-faceted perspective is &#8220;Models of the Church&#8221; by Cardinal Avery Dulles.  (Nephew of John Foster Dulles.)  Structure alone is always a double-edged sword, but it is often a necessary construct, like a ladder or a bridge, to move people to the space in between structure.</p>
<p>Where I think the problems come to play in my religion and other religions is where they mistake the structure (externals) for the truth (internal reality).  In this respect, it is no different from science which, as you so aptly point out,  does not distinguish theory from the reality which it is trying to describe.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Treating Mass Psychosis by Julie Meyer</title>
		<link>http://mitroff.net/2011/01/14/treating-mass-psychosis/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ideas, anyone, on how our leaders need to play into narratives, archetypes to create a more resonant leader who can speak to us at the fairy tale level?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ideas, anyone, on how our leaders need to play into narratives, archetypes to create a more resonant leader who can speak to us at the fairy tale level?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Age of Super Crises by Julie Meyer</title>
		<link>http://mitroff.net/2011/02/07/the-age-of-super-crises/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two online applications that could be very good for helping to map a super-crisis.  Prezi.com--a free application that helps you map at 35,000 feet, then drill down to details as needed.  The other is the Implications Wheel http://implicationswheel.com/ which helps to scout out the impact of a disaster looking at 2nd and 3rd order implications.  I&#039;d love for you to comment on how these could be used effectively in crisis management.  Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two online applications that could be very good for helping to map a super-crisis.  Prezi.com&#8211;a free application that helps you map at 35,000 feet, then drill down to details as needed.  The other is the Implications Wheel <a href="http://implicationswheel.com/" rel="nofollow">http://implicationswheel.com/</a> which helps to scout out the impact of a disaster looking at 2nd and 3rd order implications.  I&#8217;d love for you to comment on how these could be used effectively in crisis management.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s a Grim Day for Our Children by Jeannie</title>
		<link>http://mitroff.net/2011/06/30/its-a-grim-day-for-our-children/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeannie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 10:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love reading these articles because they&#039;re short but infrmoavtie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love reading these articles because they&#8217;re short but infrmoavtie.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Liberals Are Sarcastic and Conservatives Are Mean and Violent by mathU</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You totally ignore the Machiavellian tactics used by Conservatives when you say they believe &quot;If you don’t play by the rules, then you deserve to be punished.&quot;  And their fascist motto of either with us or against us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You totally ignore the Machiavellian tactics used by Conservatives when you say they believe &#8220;If you don’t play by the rules, then you deserve to be punished.&#8221;  And their fascist motto of either with us or against us.</p>
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